Been looking forward to this for a long time now. James Cameron has long been missed. I would put Terminator 2 high on the list of films that wanted me to become a filmmaker.

I've heard stories of how the finished film (complete with 3D technology etc) will absolutely blow you away.

Right now, in its current form, it looks a bit like a Dreamworks animated adventure.

The good news is that even if the teaser seems to suck, there's a 95.7% chance the film will be amazing.

Teaser trailer here: http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avatar/

Saw the trailer, looks forgettable to me, just like Beowulf.

I dunno what all the hype is about.

I think the hype is about James Cameron returning if anything.

I'll try not to knock it until I've seen it in 3D.

But for now, I'll leave you with this:

Shark Tale & Lava Girl! (singing)

Umm... yeah, the trailer makes it look silly.

I get what you're saying Ornsack, but isn't it supposed to be about a story told well, not a gimick made well?

I won't be seeing it in 3d as i rarely go to the cinema.

I think with James Cameron story comes first and effects come second (whilst being pushed further).

Plus he wrote this right after Terminator 2, so hopefully it was written without modern technologies in mind.

But yeah, I'm saying it looks bad but will be good

I hope.

Derkoi,

I know I've just recently bashed this film, but I've had this conversation with Kenny a few times.

The show was meant to be presented in 3D, supposedly it's revolutionizing the filmmaking technique.

Therefore, I'm willing to excuse any possibilities of a poor looking trailer, because it's not in 3D and it may look entirely different.

Well, time will tell i guess.

Doesn't 3D films give people headaches though? That's what i heard, never seen one.

Do you have to wear those red & blue glasses still? lol

I'm waiting for Ridley Scott's Alien prequel.

Nah, technology has advanced since the 1980's.

And this film is supposed to advance it even more.

between the trailer and what I've read in Empire I'm pretty excited about this film, I don't really care about 3d but I think the trailer looks pretty.

3D is stupid.

Give it a chance, you big baby.

Lots of people said "color is stupid" but, look at where we are today.

I don't understand why people would think color was stupid. I just find 3D to be more of a distraction than anything, you're too focused on the fact that people seem to be popping out of the screen a little bit.

Ha ha!! Like Gyro said, technology moved on a long time ago. I saw my first normal-colour film in 1994 and was blown away. Hopefully technology has moved on even more so in 15 years.

I still find it very gimmicky though. Don't think I could watch every film in 3D though, and I'm rapidly loosing the sight in my left eye anyway so give it another 15 years and it'll be a wasted artform on me anyway

James Cameron seems to think it'll become the norm. He also wants the framerate of cinema to be upped to 40fps which I think is a silly idea personally

I think 3D films will always be a gimmick, kinda like a roller-coaster ride.

James Cameron has had his day, he's made some great films, but i think he's relying too heavily on the 3D thing for Avatar to actually be a success. Sure it'll be big at Cinema, but most critics favour a film without alot of special effects, let alone a 3D one.

Also, i think they've started advertising it far too early, i mean December, that's ages away!

That has to be the funniest thing I've read for a long time.

Seriously, go to the cinema and find out. 3D has made huge leaps forward, and will continue to do so over the coming years with development of 3DTV sets that no longer need glasses. The only thing holding the industry back at the moment is no agreement on standards, as there's currently several different ways of achieving 3D with and without glasses. Cinema 3D uses polarised glasses (you lot should be experts on polarising by now), where you have horizontal and diagonal lines in the glasses, filtering out the differently polarised frames of the film. Without the glasses, the high-depth 3D areas appear blurry, although it it still watchable. I'm very impressed by some recent 3D films I've seen that combine live action with 3D [realistic] computer effects. Indeed, they are achieving visual excellence in my opinion. Gone are the days of wooden robotic CGI characters (well, unless they are made on lower budgets). I think once the ground is broken a little more in terms of wonderful effects, they'll probably settle down and concentrate on the stories more.

I agree with Dave, Avatar looks like a spectacular film. If you want a taster of how much more 3D can offer a film, go see g-Force in 3D! 3D is not going to go away, this is where the future of cinematography is at, and it will only continue to get better. a while ago, Sky tested a 3D broadcast in high definition - It requires 4 HD channels combined to provide all the additional picture information. It was hailed a success, and they are now developing the technology further. It's only a matter of time before it becomes the norm, and our future generations are wondering why the old film on the telly looks so flat!

I don't believe that films should rely on gimmicks, but when you see how 3D can enhance a film, I can only say, a good film that also has 3D is bound to be spectacular entertainment.

I don't often go to cinema.

The last time i went was to see Wall-E with Kym & Aimee and it cost just short of £20. I would of much rather bought it on DVD for that money and had the luxury of watching the special features too.

I think cinema is overpriced. It's all good going with your mates in your teens, but when you start paying for a family of 3+ it's cheaper to buy the DVD and watch it many more times & don't get me started about the cost of confectionery in these places!

I know what you mean.

We take advantage of 2 for the price of 1 ticket on Orange Wednesdays! The orange phone cost us about £20, and a fiver of credit has lasted us almost 4 months using it just for texting for the weekly promotion - We use the phone as a spare for anyone who comes from overseas to visit us. We've saved something like £75 on cinema tickets so far over this time. Especially good for 3D movies that are more expensive. I do agree, they are over-priced. Thing to watch out for is the queues at the cinema on Wednesday evenings - Always best to go before 5:30PM, buy the ticket, if it's for a later film, we often go for a meal (There's loads of mid-week special deals on everywhere at the moment), then into the cinema afterwards.

In Mexico, the cinemas have better seats, and the tickets are about a fifth of the cost - Doesn't figure! Also, the movies come out there a lot earlier, so every Christmas, we go and see pretty much every film that's on (Many are in English with Spanish Subtitles - Kids movies are usually always dubbed though), so we don't have to see them here and pay more money (Even with the Orange Wednesdays promotion, it's still much more expensive).

We sneak food into the cinema, Odeon are fairly relaxed with this, they don't check bags, and their policy is that customers can use their discression, but mot make it obvious that they are bringing in food from other places. We buy Sainsburys 3 for £1 gummies, chocolates, etc., and also take Capri-sonnes, and you can also get Butterkist Popcorn in fun-size packs.

There's also promotions at the cinemas where one day of the week, you pay for kids, and the adults go free (minimum 2 kids). We once borrowed a friend's 2 kids for this purpose. Thought twice about doing that again though, but when we eventually start a family, that's the kind of thing we'd do to save some money. Wow, I can hear a baby crying now - That's weird! Perhaps it's a cat.

I call it Mexican Corruption, something I would never have considered doing before I met Ivonne - I was always "We can't do that", "The sign says no" back in those days. Now I'm more of the attitude that rules are there as guidelines, and perhaps need to be challenged from time to time. This all started on a trip to Cheddar Gorge, we were too late to walk up Jacobs Ladder, as the gift shop (where the entrance was) was shut. There was a turnstile where people were coming down, Ivonne slipped though, I was talling her "No, you can't do that", she was telling me "I already have", so I though "Oh well - But I'm sure we're going to get into trouble". Well, we didn't get into trouble, and subsequently, saw the most teriffic subset at the top og the gorge - thank's to Mexican Corruption - The point I'm making is there's always alternative ways of doing things, even if you don't do them often.

The whole cinema thing for me is part of the experience. It becomes more of an event than "just watching a movie". Especially on opening nights/midnight showings etc. It becomes exciting and special. On DVD it's just a film to waste a couple of hours.

Although I agree the prices are getting silly. Used to cost me £2 in the Odeon when I was a student. Now can cost me £10 in the new Cinema DeLux in town (in the Directors Lounge, but you've got to do these things in style!)

Plus my concentration is awful when I watch a film at home. Have a big TV and all the glorious gadgets to go with it but it wont stop me playing with my phone etc!

Yeah i agree cinema is about the whole thing, i love the carpeted areas n stuff.


I suppose it makes it more special that i don't go much. lol

Films are meant to be viewed in the cinema, otherwise they wouldn't be so concerned with resolution other than 1080P nowadays.

If you get a chance to see a film in the cinema, on it's truest form (either a film projector if it was shot on film, or a digital projector if HD) than I couldn't recommend it more.

Although viewing DVD/Blu-Rays at home is getting more and more advances, and better to preserve the quality of the film. It's kind of like viewing pictures of the Sistine Chapel by MIchelangelo on Google, and saying it's just as good as seeing it in real life.

Also, this:



Reminds me of this:

Ha ha!!

And yes I agree. In a weird way I miss the days of VHS and 4:3 TV's, where we could still enjoy the film but it was no match for the cinema.

Plus VHS made my DV productions look more like film

The 3D for me viewing it is a pure gimmick as really no shot or scene show cased it at all. I saw perspective but that is it. The 3D anime of course was the best I have seen and that really is the selling point. Still there was an evident blur between reality and animation. The story line as you all know was so so lol

Firstly, I saw Avatar (in 2D) and thought it was pretty good, despite some flaws (notably the lack of emotional involvement in any character whatsoever). Although, I don't really have much inclination to see it again in the theaters. Secondly, on the subject of 3D. I still have yet to see a film in the "contemporary 3D" and I don't know how long it will be until I will.

All I've heard about Avatar from people is, "See it in 3D it's amazing!" but to me, it shouldn't be amazing for that reason.

I closed one eye for about 4 minutes during the film and enjoyed it a lot less.

That's not a comedic nugget, that's a true fact! I thought it was a good film but am sure I'll enjoy it less on TV sadly

No no no, it's not amazing for that reason. It's just so much more imersive. Like the difference between having a small screen, and a large cinema screen. As a 2D film, it is still excellent, good story, deep meaningful, etc., but 3D gives it just so much more life visually over what is already incredible.

Nice to see that TV manufacturers are starting with 3D now, as well as DVD distributors, even though there is still no common standard. Was interested to see this backing up my predictions: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8447432.stm

Are you disagreeing with me? Nobody disagrees with me. I could become a troll you know, and I bet Ornsack would support my endeavors.

Yes, I am disagreeing with you!

Don't drag me in to this!!

3D doesn't work that well for me (it did as a kid but my eyes are failing on me these days, plus I'm too aware of resolution and frame rate to see it as 'popping out')

For me the 3D didn't add a lot. It added enough (like I said, closing one eye made the film a bit worse) but not greatly.

I watched it again (in 3D again) and enjoyed the film a lot more the second time round. I expect I'll be quite bored watching it on my old SDTV